Curse

Mr Pink57 · Jan 25, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

2h 30m was a lotta fun, and yes even more fun then yellow way since the healing was pretty much doubled and actually so was dmg.

I would imagine some are getting annoyed with me with posting FoW clears but oh well. Also we have one spot to fill for a complete team so if anyone wants to fill it IGN Paragon Pink.

I did change a few things from original build all paras have AR and I dropped echo and put in SoR instead I think thats all the changes/variants we did.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Singers_of_Woe

I did get ok to post all names on guru.

pink

Shuriken · Jan 25, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

I would like to join you guys once. Pfong Spearwoven ingame.

Koning · Jan 25, 2008, 02:42 PM // 14:42

The build on PvX wiki is (very) bad. Also, 2.5 hours is bad for clearing

Don't know if that's because of the build, or because of the players.

Anyway, here's what we ran when we cleared the Fissure of Woe (1.5 hours back than):

3x SoR motivation para's:

Song of restoration
Finale of restoration
Chorus of restoration
Agressive refrain
Spear of Lightning
Merciless spear
Signet of Return
Optional (In this slot we need either Ballad of restoration/Signet of synergy/Mending refrain. We need all 3, the para's need to decide themselves which one each will bring)

11+1 Leadership
11+1 Motivation
8+1+1 Spear mastery (attributes might be optimized by spapping headpieces, however I've ran these builds on heroes so I couldn't do that).

1x SY! Para

Save Yourselves! (at least 4 secs, otherwise you can't maintain it forever)
Agressive refrain
Focussed Anger
Signet of return (if we dont bring essence, use FGJ)
Ebon battle standard of honor
Great dwarf weapon/Iam the strongest (depending on title
Spear of lightning
Vicious attack (or wild throw if you brought great dwarf weapon)

12+1+1 Spear mastery
11+1 Leadership

1x Anthem of Fury Para:

Anthem of Fury
Go for the Eyes!
Anthem of flame
They're on fire or something other usefull
Agressive Refrain
Anthem of Envy
Spear of Lightning/Vicious attack
Wild trow/Disrupting trow

12+1 Leadership (for a 4 adreanaline AoF)
8+1 Command
10+1+1 Spear mastery

1X damager

Cruel Spear
Spear of Lightning
Swift javelin (if with order, otherwise use vicious)
FGJ
Agressive refrain
There's nothing to fear (if lvl 8 SS or higher)
I am the strongest
Go For the Eyes!

12+1+1 Spear mastery
11+1 Leadership
rest in command

Expel Hexes Dude

Expel hexes
Inspired hex
Anthem of envy
Go For The Eyes!
Spear of lightning
Agressive refrain
Wild Throw/Merciless spear
signet of return

11+1+1 spear mastery
11+1 leadership
rest +1 in command

Than we're 7/8. For the last slot either another damager, or even an order. Make sure you either give that guy a TNTF (since only the cruel spear has TNTF in this set up), otherwise some other para from the above builds takes it (pref the anthem of fury one). No need for SoP in FoW, and maybe we can drop a few sigs of return for attack skills. I would suggest using this rather than what's on PvX, and maybe others might have tips to improve this even more?

Abedeus · Jan 25, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Wow. I really MUST get my SoR Paragon to FoW in such a group, or I'll catch Expel Hexes.

Shaz · Jan 25, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Nice job clearing. Not sure if you took really really long break between quest, but as Koning said, 2.5 hours to clear FoW NM is not that fast.

While group of lots of paragons are very fun to play, and is strong and durable, I find that anymore than 3 (or maybe 4) paragons in a group is redundance.

Arkantos · Jan 25, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

2h30m to beat NM FoW with a team full of an imba profession?

Meh, congrats anyways.

Mr Pink57 · Jan 25, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

There where breaks yes, some where also new to fow. Also we are all strangers non of us where from the same guild it was all just random, so had to understand their build better as there para is not there main character like some.

The Shadow Patrol being inside the tower did kill quite some time trying to lure him exactly to the door to finish the quest as he kept going off the to the sides. I should have screenshot it to send to anet.

As for the builds posted thank you, I just wanted to try their team setup and see how it did. We did ok for the first shot at it with some new people. Also I'm thinking of the last spot maying being a charge paragon to get you moving a heck of a lot faster between fights.

pink

MisterB · Jan 25, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Only one of your Paragons in the PvX build has 12 or more Spear Mastery, while the rest have their attributes needlessly inflated to 16. You don't need 16 Leadership, Motivation, or Command for those builds, especially not the "Tactician." More Spear Mastery kills much faster, reducing the need for defense and healing. Paragons are good at killing fast while providing party-wide support if set up properly. Consider re-arranging your attributes so you have at least 11 in Spear, if not 12.
edit: Maybe 10 Spear on Motivation Paragons, I guess.

Congrats on the clear; not bad for a PuG with new builds.

Krazi Bastid · Jan 26, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

i was in that group (sausage). i never played a motiv para but the build was easy to understand. spam skills as soon as they popped up is my style and exactly how i played it. shadow patrol stuck inside closed tower was pretty homo. we mustve stood at door like 15-20minutes getting a spear attack per driveby. chest gayed me out with a scroll ftl. i would love to do it again tho with a more efficient quest path.

kyo_sukara · Jan 26, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

hehe Mr Pink
am Karu the one that standing next to u in da photo
thank you for the 2hrs30mins run
that was the best team i ever had for FoW run
____________________________
Karu:Why u dyed your armor pink?
Paragon Pink:cuz am allow
Karu: ^_^

Akolo · Jan 27, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

hmm as koning posted we ran that.. 3 dmg from Meteor Shower with SY TNTF and other buffs is insane...
took 1 hour 30 min... and had FUN during that whole time

MercenaryKnight · Jan 27, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I was wondering, would it be good to run a p/n with Order of the Vampire elite? Seems like the life steal could help (even a tiny bit) with healing, as well as added damage. Could bring a +20% enchant mod (if that works).

Aggressive refrain isn't terribly needed. Cracked armor is annoying and if possible you could swap it out with drunken master. Otherwise bringing a few extra great dwarf weapons or summon vanguard assassin or anything to damage/ disrupt the enemy seems like it'd help more.

Akolo · Jan 27, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

mercenary thats exactly what we used

. We used adrenaline shouts to fuel the para's energy

MercenaryKnight · Jan 27, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Any suggestion or perhaps a copy of the build you used for the p/n? I really don't know how you'd set up for the rest of the build.

Akolo · Jan 27, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Paragon/Necromancer
Spear Mastery 8+1
Command 9+1
Blood Magic 9
Leadership 10+1+3

[skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill][skill]Ebon Battle Standard of Honor[/skill] [skill]Anthem of Weariness[/skill][skill]Dark Fury[/skill][skill]Order of the Vampire[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

this is the exact copy of what we used

MercenaryKnight · Jan 27, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

If you used dark fury then OotV wouldn't work. It says if ally is under another necro enchantment that it doesn't work. So I guess you guys had to sub that out for Order of Pain instead if you want to use both of them.

Mr Pink57 · Jan 27, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Spear of Lightning will not trigger OoV.

pink

Xue Fang · Jan 28, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

If you used dark fury then OotV wouldn't work. It says if ally is under another necro enchantment that it doesn't work. So I guess you guys had to sub that out for Order of Pain instead if you want to use both of them.

It's more than likely that they used Dark Fury to enter battle and build up adrenaline to power themselves, and used OotV for damage.

MercenaryKnight · Jan 28, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Yeah, but you can't spam spear of lightning every attack so it'll add damage to every other spear you throw besides it. Or change it for swift javelin.

John Panda · Jan 28, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

nice. (:

i think you should try again for a better time though.